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Daesu · Jul 28, 2009, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

If you purchased additional accounts for the sole purpose of farming XTH, despite the fact that this is not what purchasing additional accounts officially guarantees you,

That is already wrong. Did you even read the XTH rules? It says 1 entry per account. Does it say only valid for accounts created before a certain date? No. Did previous monthly XTH reward exclude new accounts? No.

Therefore ANet DOES indeed reward new accounts, because they fully expected people to buy new accounts to join XTH. If they dont, then they would be slapping their foreheads and saying duh, never thought that people would buy new accounts for XTH. That would be silly and obviously that didn't happen.

Please dont try to distort ANet's intentions, when they have clearly supported the buying of new accounts for XTH ever since XTH first started!

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then that purchase was a gamble. Get that through your thick head. G-A-M-B-L-E

Everything can be a gamble. If you farm, it is gamble too, as you are not guaranteed to have good drops. Does that necessarily mean you must therefore, always get terrible drops from now on?

People see an advertisements on their website and paid real money for it to buy more chance to win additional tournament points/zkeys every month. It is that simple.

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Unless you can find specific documentation that states that your purchase of the account guarantees free Zkey's ( which you can't, because it doesn't exist ) you are shit out of luck.

Don't even try to play the lawyer when you are not. Go read their rules:

You receive 5 Tournament Reward Points just for participating. That is already a zkey. You earn Prediction Points based on how accurately your predictions match the actual tournament results.

https://www.guildwars.com/competitiv...ouse/rules.php

To claim your Tournament Reward Points, speak with Kun Shao [Xunlai Tournament Agent] in the Great Temple of Balthazar. Then exchange these points for prizes by speaking with Tolkano [Tournament], also in the Great Temple of Balthazar.

To find the Zaishen Chest, enter the Isle of the Nameless from the Great Temple of Balthazar, then head to the left.

Clearly, ANet can do alot more things to piss their customers off. Leaving XTH broken, when many have bought their accounts because of XTH, would be one of them. Regardless of any legal disclaimer, or excuses, if they cause their customers to feel cheated, they would remember when GW2 is released. I still have faith that ANet would do the right thing.

Spiritweaver · Jul 28, 2009, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by Daesu

That is already wrong. Did you even read the XTH rules? It says 1 entry per account. Does it say only valid for accounts created before a certain date? No. Did previous monthly XTH reward exclude new accounts? No.

Therefore ANet DOES indeed reward new accounts, because they fully expected people to buy new accounts to join XTH. If they dont, then they would be slapping their foreheads and saying duh, never thought that people would buy new accounts for XTH. That would be silly and obviously that didn't happen.

Please dont try to distort ANet's intentions, when they have clearly supported the buying of new accounts for XTH ever since XTH first started!

Everything can be a gamble. If you farm, it is gamble too, as you are not guaranteed to have good drops. Does that necessarily mean you must therefore, always get terrible drops from now on?

People see an advertisements on their website and paid real money for it to buy more chance to win additional tournament points/zkeys every month. It is that simple.

Don't even try to play the lawyer when you are not. Go read their rules:

You receive 5 Tournament Reward Points just for participating. That is already a zkey. You earn Prediction Points based on how accurately your predictions match the actual tournament results.

https://www.guildwars.com/competitiv...ouse/rules.php

To claim your Tournament Reward Points, speak with Kun Shao [Xunlai Tournament Agent] in the Great Temple of Balthazar. Then exchange these points for prizes by speaking with Tolkano [Tournament], also in the Great Temple of Balthazar.

To find the Zaishen Chest, enter the Isle of the Nameless from the Great Temple of Balthazar, then head to the left.

Clearly, ANet can do alot more things to piss their customers off. Leaving XTH broken, when many have bought their accounts because of XTH, would be one of them. Regardless of any legal disclaimer, or excuses, if they cause their customers to feel cheated, they would remember when GW2 is released. I still have faith that ANet would do the right thing.

If you bought multiple accounts just because of XTH and expect Anet to feel sorry for you, more fool you.

Also Anet have never ever encouraged players to buy multiple accounts just for XTH. That's born out of your own misconception. Anyone with half a brain who has bought multiple accounts for XTH alone knows this, and knows they took a gamble. It's an exploit of a flawed system that has come down to nothing less than RMT which players try and back up with statements of all their money going to Anet to pay developer wages, etc. This would be probably more feasible if you paid a subscription for each account.

All you are doing is repeating the same crap over and over, and the problem here is your arguement is entirely flawed because when it comes to XTH Anet owes you nothing, regardless of how many accounts you bought just to exploit it.

Anon-e-mouse · Jul 28, 2009, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

Guildwars makes me buy the game AND now has microtransactions like these free to play/download games.

I really, really wish people would wise up on the phrase "Microtransactions", and what it really means. Micro meaning small, minute or tiny.

$10 and upwards IS NOT SMALL, MINUTE, OR TINY.

Guild Wars DOES NOT use the "Microtransactions" model.

Symbiont · Jul 28, 2009, 10:09 AM // 10:09

I've been waiting for the XTH too, I've never done it before and it would be nice to see if I won anything, so hopefully that'll be fixed soon.

PS It's getting old how you vets state the game as dead. I play everyday and see tonnes of active players. All I can ask is where have you been? Solo farming high end areas 24/7 can get lonely, maybe all that monotony has gotten to your heads.

Lishy · Jul 28, 2009, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Need I remind you that GW's playerbase is spoiled? ^

Spiritweaver · Jul 28, 2009, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by Symbiont

I've been waiting for the XTH too, I've never done it before and it would be nice to see if I won anything, so hopefully that'll be fixed soon.

PS It's getting old how you vets state the game as dead. I play everyday and see tonnes of active players. All I can ask is where have you been? Solo farming high end areas 24/7 can get lonely, maybe all that monotony has gotten to your heads.

The game is far from dead, the playerbase is just spread out thinly over 4 campaigns and multiple districts.

Ugh · Jul 28, 2009, 10:25 AM // 10:25

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That is already wrong. Did you even read the XTH rules? It says 1 entry per account. Does it say only valid for accounts created before a certain date? No. Did previous monthly XTH reward exclude new accounts? No.

Did it say, "hay gais go out adn by moar acountz for teh XTH, itz a garinteed servise taht will be up forevar. if it evar gows down, feel free 2 bitch adn moan til we fix it lol." No.

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Everything can be a gamble. If you farm, it is gamble too, as you are not guaranteed to have good drops. Does that necessarily mean you must therefore, always get terrible drops from now on?

A gamble is when you risk something of value for the chance to get something else. I am not risking anything by farming, I'm just intentionally using up my time to farm. Consult a dictionary for future vocabulary issues.

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People see an advertisements on their website and paid real money for it to buy more chance to win additional tournament points/zkeys every month. It is that simple.

If you spent money in real life for money in a game, either A) you have nothing better to spend your money on or B) you're an idiot.

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Clearly, ANet can do alot more things to piss their customers off. Leaving XTH broken, when many have bought their accounts because of XTH, would be one of them. Regardless of any legal disclaimer, or excuses, if they cause their customers to feel cheated, they would remember when GW2 is released. I still have faith that ANet would do the right thing.

Your account still works as promised. It's not like Anet just canceled all accounts but your main and said, "lol no refunds lol." You can still use all your accounts, even if you aren't able to abuse the system for free in-game money. Personally, I don't care if the XTH gets fixed or not. Now, the people who work for their Zkeys can get more money in return.

Chocobo1 · Jul 28, 2009, 10:26 AM // 10:26

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Need I remind you that GW's playerbase is spoiled? ^

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/palmface

Edit: OT, Just please close down the Xunlai House. The people who abuse it don't deserve it at all. I can make Zkeys incredibly easy in game without the random lottery, and now I can actually earn money of it.
The Xunlai House is a joke, everyone knows it is free money. Please don't put it back up. Don't even limit the accounts, just leave it dead. It rewards people for being terrible.

Paradise Lost · Jul 28, 2009, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Imo, I think they should openly state that XTH is being taken down forever. Free up the people so they can work on Gw2.

Xanthe Dashka · Jul 28, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye

Without us PvE "scrubs," you PvP pre-madonnas on your high-horse have no game to play.

Yes, Anet is farming you.
The more accounts people buy for free zaishen keys, the happier Anet becomes. And that's good for them. It's perfect marketing, selling accounts for minimal effort.

Daesu · Jul 28, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

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Originally Posted by Spiritweaver

Also Anet have never ever encouraged players to buy multiple accounts just for XTH. That's born out of your own misconception. Anyone with half a brain who has bought multiple accounts for XTH alone knows this, and knows they took a gamble.

You are WRONG and I have proven that to you.

If ANet doesn't want people to buy new accounts to play XTH, then why didn't they cater for the age of the account when it comes to the rewards? Also why didn't they simply add a line in their rules, to say only 1 entry per player instead of 1 entry per account, so people would not buy new accounts for it?

Historical facts proved that ANet has every intention for people to buy new accounts even if their motivations were for XTH. ANet knew about this all along, they were even told what is happening by other players, and STILL continued to reward new accounts when they could have stopped people from buying new accounts for XTH rewards at any time.

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All you are doing is repeating the same crap over and over, and the problem here is your arguement is entirely flawed because when it comes to XTH Anet owes you nothing, regardless of how many accounts you bought just to exploit it.

You keep saying that ANet didnt want people to buy new accounts without any backing facts other than insisting the same crap over and over, while I have website links and historical facts to back me up.

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Originally Posted by Ugh

If you spent money in real life for money in a game, either A) you have nothing better to spend your money on or B) you're an idiot.

If you dont even spend real money in a free-to-play game then you are a cheapsake, for not supporting your game company so don't expect any updates from them. When was the last time you bought anything from ANet?

Spiritweaver · Jul 28, 2009, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by Daesu

You are WRONG and I have proven that to you.

If ANet doesn't want people to buy new accounts to play XTH, then why didn't they cater for the age of the account when it comes to the rewards? Also why didn't they simply add a line in their rules, to say only 1 person per account, so people would not buy new accounts for it?

Historical facts proved that ANet has every intention for people to buy new accounts even if their motivations were for XTH. ANet knew about this all along and still continued to reward new accounts when they could have stopped people from buying new accounts for XTH rewards at any time.

You keep insisting that ANet didnt want people to buy new accounts without any backing facts other than insisting over and over, while I have website links and historical facts to back me up.

Ok, show me a link where Anet says, or even encourages, a player to buy multiple accounts for XTH.

Show me a link of Anet saying along the lines of "Hey guys buy multiple accounts to support us and pay our wages, you can also exploit our XTH aswell while you're at it".

You haven't proven anything. All you are doing is spreading conspiracy theories.

Daesu · Jul 28, 2009, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by Spiritweaver

Ok, show me a link where Anet says, or even encourages, a player to buy multiple accounts for XTH.

XTH rules says 1 entry PER ACCOUNT.

https://www.guildwars.com/competitiv...ouse/rules.php

...and you receive 5 Tournament Reward Points just for participating. You earn Prediction Points as shown in the table below, based on how accurately your predictions match the actual tournament results.

https://www.guildwars.com/competitiv...use/prizes.php

The prizes are encouraging enough.

Stop spreading LIES that ANet has no intention for players to buy new accounts just for XTH. Where is your proof that this is their intention all along?

Inde · Jul 28, 2009, 02:35 PM // 14:35

All right, yet another XTH thread that has fallen into insults and arguing about nothing and everything. Since we can't seem to make an headway in these threads, they are being closed. Please feel free to continue your discussion in PM's if you feel so inclined.

I do believe the OP's original question has been answered in the form of the updates I provided and we'll just have to wait-and-see when they will be.

XTH = http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...88&postcount=3

August Update = http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=86